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What happens when two counselors try to balance therapy, parenting, partnership, and professional identity—all at the same time? In this warm and candid conversation, Joy and Sam Steen join Travis Heath to explore virtual counseling, working with children and families, sustaining a marriage in the helping professions, and raising a multiracial family in today’s sociopolitical climate. Together, they reflect on what therapists can learn from children, how counseling work follows us home, and why authenticity matters more than professional performance. This episode offers an honest look at the human side of therapeutic work—and the relationships that sustain it.